geneb
2007-08-06 07:22:12 UTC
*** VintageBMX.com Adds Price Tag To Forum ****
Gene`s BMX News -- ( Reposted from 08/12/2006 )
Vintage BMX Web Site Adds A Price
Tag To Its BMX Forum Post Boards.
Cut From Vintagebmx Login: -----
All new member sign ups will require a $25.00 refundable
security deposit to access the message board. This is not
a membership fee. This is refundable if you no longer want
to participate on the site after a 1 year period. If you
are removed by a moderator or administrator or receives
three warnings of any kind, you will be removed from the
membership and forfeit the $25.00 deposit. -----
The bottom line of what that says, sums it well,
Vintagebmx is asking for money to use a web tool
on its web site, Of this, that is called being a
pay web site post board, may it be BMX or what ever.
It locks people out - less they pay money.
Don't get me wrong, vintagebmx was a nice web site
lots of bmx history and a nice place for people to
ask questions about bmx history and some of today's
happings.
The mass of vintagebmx was one of the best bmx web
sites on the web, But with the pay of money to ask
bmx questions for the new joe blow bmxer is not a
tactic that I would say would help the bmx sport in
any ways. It kills it out as it locks bmxers out.
If you have problems with spam bots, trolls-abuse
there are tools for that and the most are FREE on
the www if you look.
But asking new BMXers/The Youth/People to pay to post,
talk, speak, on a post board just makes for more harm
for everyone in the internet's BMXing community. I don`t
want to be apart of it.
It is not me that is grandstanding here, It looks as
if it is and would be vintagebmx web site that is doing
the grandstanding as they ask for money for the new
BMXers and people to post and ask questions on there
bmx forum.
Vintagebmx is not my web site,
so they are free to do as they do.
Yes in my views, BMX on the world wide web should
be FREE to all and to all in to asking and posting
questions about the sport of bmx on the web.
That is what a post board is all about is in to
keeping communications on going and vintagebmx
is blocking it with a price tag for the new people.
Making a top dog BMX Post Board, In to a "Pay" bmx
post board, It shuts off and it shuts out the new
"BMXers" that wants to ask/post questions about the
sport.
In a email quote from some one that emailed
me about the vintagebmx web site having people
pay to ask/post bmx questions, kind of hit the
nail on the head, It quoted: "vintagebmx putting
a price tag on a bmx forum to talk, is somewhat
like putting a price tag on to the First Amendment
because you have to pay to talk to each other".
I have to agree with this guy as he is right.
With having to pay to speak/post takes away
the Free Speech and braking down the communications
among the BMXers.
But like I said, vintagebmx is not my web site,
it not my loss, but in the end, its everyone's
loss that is into BMX.
In the last few years iv sent allot of people
over to the vintagebmx web site as in to questions
that some people ask me that I don't know about bmx
like in to historys of the bmx or talks of vintage
bmx bicycles and the list is long.
Im not the only one that sends people over there
to help with there bmx questions, and in hope that
they can get there bmx questions answered by the
post board that is.
With the move of vintagebmx asking new people to
pay a fee to ask questions, and with me sending
people over to the vintagebmx web site to ask
there questions of bmx,
In all, its like Im the one asking for the
money here, because Im sending people over
to a pay post board....
I do NOT support pay web sites on the world wide
web. May they be BMX or not. Why would I want to
be sending people to a pay web site post board
and to have them pay money to ask a question
about bmx? With chances, if people surfed the
web some, with in time they can get there bmx
questions answered for free and not have to pay
anything for asking/posting a BMX question.
The Web is up to us. You, me, and everyone else.
Let's use the web to create neat and new exciting
things. Let's use the Web to help people understand
each other.
Also, about ISTV - Im somewhat glad to see them go,
the pay bmx web site did do some harm in to the
internet's BMXing community. It drew a line to witch
BMXers had money and to witch BMXer did not have money
and making the internet's BMXing community divide apart.
My Commentary post sums my thoughts all from the
start of them - ( ISTV Pay BMX Site Web site -
"Ya" Right, Give BMX a Brake! )
http://www.genesbmx.com/istv-thoughts.html
Will we all see the Vintage BMX web site
Forum divide apart the internet's BMXing
community like ISTV did? - Only time will
tell, but less hope not!
Quote:-- So you question my talents and my tactics;
Well, I don`t have much talent, But my tactics are
simple:
Free and Open Source for The BMX Sport on the
World Wide Web. So eveyone around the world
can enjoy the Internet's BMXing Community.
The mass of the BMXing Community are of youth.
Locking out the youth from its own target youth
web sites with pay web sites just is not wright.
Pay Web Sites are known and used as "youth lock-outs"
for the adult entertainment industry on the world wide
web. - Less keep the Pay web sites where they belong,
with the adult porno web sites, and keep the bmx web
sites free in the BMX Community. Intermixing the both
in anyways or form is just flat wrong. A pay BMX site
is Intermixing the two = Troubles.
"BMX Bicycling Knowlegment And Internet Knowlegment
Belongs To Everyone In The World" ..............
Less Keep It Free For BMX!
Be smart BMXers, SAVE YOUR MONEY! surf the world
wide web. Posting your BMX documentation on the
world wide web should be FREE to all people around
the globe. - If it is not, It is a Scam! trying to
get your money so they can get rich from you - the BMXer.
This Is My Thoughts And Quotes About It All.
So if your sensitive over my thoughts and quotes
Im going to say:- to bad, - bite me! - So Enjoy,
CC - http://www.genesbmx.com/vintagebmx-pay-forum.html
Geneb...Wenatchee,Washington-USA
All Things Northwest in BMX!
***** Gene`s BMX *****
http://www.genesbmx.com
Gene`s BMX News -- ( Reposted from 08/12/2006 )
Vintage BMX Web Site Adds A Price
Tag To Its BMX Forum Post Boards.
Cut From Vintagebmx Login: -----
All new member sign ups will require a $25.00 refundable
security deposit to access the message board. This is not
a membership fee. This is refundable if you no longer want
to participate on the site after a 1 year period. If you
are removed by a moderator or administrator or receives
three warnings of any kind, you will be removed from the
membership and forfeit the $25.00 deposit. -----
The bottom line of what that says, sums it well,
Vintagebmx is asking for money to use a web tool
on its web site, Of this, that is called being a
pay web site post board, may it be BMX or what ever.
It locks people out - less they pay money.
Don't get me wrong, vintagebmx was a nice web site
lots of bmx history and a nice place for people to
ask questions about bmx history and some of today's
happings.
The mass of vintagebmx was one of the best bmx web
sites on the web, But with the pay of money to ask
bmx questions for the new joe blow bmxer is not a
tactic that I would say would help the bmx sport in
any ways. It kills it out as it locks bmxers out.
If you have problems with spam bots, trolls-abuse
there are tools for that and the most are FREE on
the www if you look.
But asking new BMXers/The Youth/People to pay to post,
talk, speak, on a post board just makes for more harm
for everyone in the internet's BMXing community. I don`t
want to be apart of it.
It is not me that is grandstanding here, It looks as
if it is and would be vintagebmx web site that is doing
the grandstanding as they ask for money for the new
BMXers and people to post and ask questions on there
bmx forum.
Vintagebmx is not my web site,
so they are free to do as they do.
Yes in my views, BMX on the world wide web should
be FREE to all and to all in to asking and posting
questions about the sport of bmx on the web.
That is what a post board is all about is in to
keeping communications on going and vintagebmx
is blocking it with a price tag for the new people.
Making a top dog BMX Post Board, In to a "Pay" bmx
post board, It shuts off and it shuts out the new
"BMXers" that wants to ask/post questions about the
sport.
In a email quote from some one that emailed
me about the vintagebmx web site having people
pay to ask/post bmx questions, kind of hit the
nail on the head, It quoted: "vintagebmx putting
a price tag on a bmx forum to talk, is somewhat
like putting a price tag on to the First Amendment
because you have to pay to talk to each other".
I have to agree with this guy as he is right.
With having to pay to speak/post takes away
the Free Speech and braking down the communications
among the BMXers.
But like I said, vintagebmx is not my web site,
it not my loss, but in the end, its everyone's
loss that is into BMX.
In the last few years iv sent allot of people
over to the vintagebmx web site as in to questions
that some people ask me that I don't know about bmx
like in to historys of the bmx or talks of vintage
bmx bicycles and the list is long.
Im not the only one that sends people over there
to help with there bmx questions, and in hope that
they can get there bmx questions answered by the
post board that is.
With the move of vintagebmx asking new people to
pay a fee to ask questions, and with me sending
people over to the vintagebmx web site to ask
there questions of bmx,
In all, its like Im the one asking for the
money here, because Im sending people over
to a pay post board....
I do NOT support pay web sites on the world wide
web. May they be BMX or not. Why would I want to
be sending people to a pay web site post board
and to have them pay money to ask a question
about bmx? With chances, if people surfed the
web some, with in time they can get there bmx
questions answered for free and not have to pay
anything for asking/posting a BMX question.
The Web is up to us. You, me, and everyone else.
Let's use the web to create neat and new exciting
things. Let's use the Web to help people understand
each other.
Also, about ISTV - Im somewhat glad to see them go,
the pay bmx web site did do some harm in to the
internet's BMXing community. It drew a line to witch
BMXers had money and to witch BMXer did not have money
and making the internet's BMXing community divide apart.
My Commentary post sums my thoughts all from the
start of them - ( ISTV Pay BMX Site Web site -
"Ya" Right, Give BMX a Brake! )
http://www.genesbmx.com/istv-thoughts.html
Will we all see the Vintage BMX web site
Forum divide apart the internet's BMXing
community like ISTV did? - Only time will
tell, but less hope not!
Quote:-- So you question my talents and my tactics;
Well, I don`t have much talent, But my tactics are
simple:
Free and Open Source for The BMX Sport on the
World Wide Web. So eveyone around the world
can enjoy the Internet's BMXing Community.
The mass of the BMXing Community are of youth.
Locking out the youth from its own target youth
web sites with pay web sites just is not wright.
Pay Web Sites are known and used as "youth lock-outs"
for the adult entertainment industry on the world wide
web. - Less keep the Pay web sites where they belong,
with the adult porno web sites, and keep the bmx web
sites free in the BMX Community. Intermixing the both
in anyways or form is just flat wrong. A pay BMX site
is Intermixing the two = Troubles.
"BMX Bicycling Knowlegment And Internet Knowlegment
Belongs To Everyone In The World" ..............
Less Keep It Free For BMX!
Be smart BMXers, SAVE YOUR MONEY! surf the world
wide web. Posting your BMX documentation on the
world wide web should be FREE to all people around
the globe. - If it is not, It is a Scam! trying to
get your money so they can get rich from you - the BMXer.
This Is My Thoughts And Quotes About It All.
So if your sensitive over my thoughts and quotes
Im going to say:- to bad, - bite me! - So Enjoy,
CC - http://www.genesbmx.com/vintagebmx-pay-forum.html
Geneb...Wenatchee,Washington-USA
All Things Northwest in BMX!
***** Gene`s BMX *****
http://www.genesbmx.com